tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post5558673433133503123..comments2023-09-17T10:28:18.895-04:00Comments on Great Lakes, Great Times, Great Scott: 2008 Electoral College tie would likely yield Democratic PresidentScotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16814983603237679107noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-27513256400602810192008-10-31T13:32:00.000-04:002008-10-31T13:32:00.000-04:00Congress adjourns before the votes are cast in Dec...Congress adjourns before the votes are cast in December. They are counted after the newly elected Congress convenes in January. If that count fails to produce a winner, then Congress votes. So it's immediately after the votes are counted, not immediately after they're cast.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16814983603237679107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-75079031083887832192008-10-31T12:10:00.000-04:002008-10-31T12:10:00.000-04:00Who ever is in office right after the official ele...Who ever is in office right after the official electoral college vote, in December, would be voting. The constitution says immediatly. <BR/><BR/>Just like the president elect doesn't get to handle any presidential decisions until they take office.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00289553282763439928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-47143796307474754802008-10-21T17:37:00.000-04:002008-10-21T17:37:00.000-04:00Actually, the election being thrown to the house w...Actually, the election being thrown to the house would probably result in McCain being president.<BR/><BR/>Why?<BR/><BR/>Republicans have more "unified" control of more states.<BR/><BR/>And if a state's delegation cannot agree unanimously, then the state loses its vote.<BR/><BR/>However, the senate works on a simple majority vote.<BR/><BR/>SO if the election is thrown to congress....<BR/><BR/>we'll have a McCain/Biden white house. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-50420280416874094482008-09-28T09:22:00.000-04:002008-09-28T09:22:00.000-04:00Based on the way this is set up, in the case of a ...Based on the way this is set up, in the case of a tie, there is no way Sarah Palin would become vice president because there is no way the Democrats will lose the Senate. If it is the present Senate that votes on VP, Biden would still win by 1 vote or more. I suspect Hagel would vote for Biden and there may be other Republican Senators who would vote for him. Judas Lieberman would probably not vote for Palin, but even if he did and all Republicans did, it would still come out 50-49, Biden. This is all academic, however, because Barack is going to crush McCain on Nov.4th.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-88316886308300606532008-09-26T14:32:00.000-04:002008-09-26T14:32:00.000-04:00There are two ways to get rid of the electorial co...There are two ways to get rid of the electorial college - either by Constitutional amendment, or more likely, by a consortium of states that together represent more than a majority of electors agreeing to cast all of their electoral ballots for the winner of the popular vote. <BR/><BR/>If that happens, there will be no more state-by-state fights. Every single vote will matter whether it comes from a swing state or from a clear red or blue state. This might be the only real way to have a truly national campaign that only focuses on the swing states.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-67387047702045216672008-09-22T08:24:00.000-04:002008-09-22T08:24:00.000-04:00The new Congress would elect the new president. M...The new Congress would elect the new president. My guess is that there would be no prez elected, since 26 states, not a majority, would be necessary. Even if the Dems control a majority of state delegations, there would be pressure on, say, the delegations (or lone reps) of states supporting McCain to have their Democratic reps vote accordingly. This could include MT, SD, ND, and Indiana-- possibly others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-79194361576586104982008-09-16T22:57:00.000-04:002008-09-16T22:57:00.000-04:00Anonymous said... If we got rid of the electora...<I>Anonymous said...<BR/><BR/> If we got rid of the electoral college and only the popular vote was counted...then you just have to win CA, TX, NY, IL, FL... there, done deal. Not fair to the smaller states. Anyway, let's face it...these last elections are razor thin becuase it's the large cities VS. the rest of the country. Could very well be a tie this time.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>That's the worst logic. That would only work if 100 percent of those five states votes for the same candidate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-59933591550639132952008-09-11T22:40:00.000-04:002008-09-11T22:40:00.000-04:00klatuberatanikto, the only answer I can give is th...klatuberatanikto, the only answer I can give is that the members of Congress are free to vote as they wish. Odds are, Berkowitz would vote for Obama and Castle for McCain, but that's just my guess.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16814983603237679107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-51485118235575971162008-09-11T16:58:00.000-04:002008-09-11T16:58:00.000-04:00One interesting question: would a Representative v...One interesting question: would a Representative vote with their party or with their district?<BR/>For example, Alaska may have a Democrat Representative for the 111th Congress. Would he buck his state's vote and support Obama?<BR/>Also condider Mike Castle (R) in Delaware if he wins re-election.<BR/><BR/>By the way, what happens to the vote of a delegation if they are evenly divided and no one budges? Some states with an even number of representatives in their delegation may be split 50/50 on party lines. Does the delegation lose its vote if they can't reach a consensus?<BR/><BR/>This reminds me of the quandary faced here in Atlanta by John Lewis (D)(GA-05) when he continued to support Hillary after Super Tuesday, although his district went overwhelmingly for Obama. He eventually changed his support, but only after a general outcry and 2 challengers registered for the district primary.<BR/><BR/>If there's an electoral tie, I'm not sure I trust representatives of either party to work straight and honest. However, since the Democrat party will probably gain seats, I don't see that there will be a problem.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05302584425809659048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-76333107749515308732008-09-10T10:19:00.000-04:002008-09-10T10:19:00.000-04:00I went to an interactive electoral map and changed...I went to an interactive electoral map and changed it according to the current state polls, I came up with Colorado as the remaining state to decide the election, Obama 260 McCain 269, Colarado is 9 which means if it goes democrat Obama ties, however, the state is much to close to call. But right now is leaning Dem by less than 1 percent.<BR/><BR/>However, I am not an obama supporter by a longshot, and cringe at the idea of a tie. Because if it is a tie, the left wing nuts in congress will elect the next president....<BR/><BR/>by the way I like your Blog, intelligent, and not filled with hate. Your article is spot on. Keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-91511094399803737962008-09-04T05:10:00.000-04:002008-09-04T05:10:00.000-04:00If we got rid of the electoral college and only th...If we got rid of the electoral college and only the popular vote was counted...then you just have to win CA, TX, NY, IL, FL... there, done deal. Not fair to the smaller states. Anyway, let's face it...these last elections are razor thin becuase it's the large cities VS. the rest of the country. Could very well be a tie this time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-27125403473922297592008-09-02T05:51:00.000-04:002008-09-02T05:51:00.000-04:00Sorry to be pedantic, but back in 1865 there was b...Sorry to be pedantic, but back in 1865 there was briefly a GOP president - Abraham Lincoln - and a Democratic vice president - Andrew Johnson - before Lincoln was assassinated and Johnson took over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-79951307468210935462008-08-12T11:55:00.000-04:002008-08-12T11:55:00.000-04:00Hoefully California can pass the law to have all t...Hoefully California can pass the law to have all their electoral votes go to the winner of the popular vote -- that will be the beginning of the end of the electoral college.Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13642568829865013282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-68946145520122020102008-06-28T01:54:00.000-04:002008-06-28T01:54:00.000-04:00The newly elected House would vote.The newly elected House would vote.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16814983603237679107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32538967.post-23217259090222807912008-04-24T18:04:00.000-04:002008-04-24T18:04:00.000-04:00But would the House that votes be the existing Hou...But would the House that votes be the existing House, or the newly elected House - is that clear?Mike Wendlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14251878374898797266noreply@blogger.com